CE4 Research Group
Frequently Asked Questions
1. Is the Alien Abduction Experience real?
To the people reporting the experience, it is very real, an event that can be very hard to distinguish from any other everyday event.
2. What kinds of people are “abductees”?
Most of these experiencers, and we will say most of the experiencers, are normal everyday people. If you look at the case testimonies that we’ve come across, and look at the videos that we’ve had available… You’ll see that these people come from all different professions: unlike what most people think, that these people come from back woods or trailer parks. That’s not the way it works. We’re dealing with very professional people, that have had an experience that they cannot explain, and it’s affected their life. And that’s something that’s across the board for society; there’s no separate area that seems to be more than others, perhaps with one exception. It actually seems to be people of a higher intelligence have had this experience more than others.
3. Are Aliens real extraterrestrial biological entities?
In many circles this is readily accepted. This is NOT a proven fact. NO evidence yet today can absolutely show this. It is only a belief, based on sketchy at best circumstantial so-called evidence. The research findings that we have show that this is not an extraterrestrial biological entity that we’re dealing with. Rather, the research shows what we’re dealing with here, is this: it is a spiritual entity, and this is even what the secular realm is starting to see. They call it an “interdimensional" or "extradimensional" entity. Well, they’re only one step away from using the word, “the spirit realm”. Which, they won’t go there, because that would actually get them to accept the fact that if there’s a spiritual realm, then the Bible must be true. And they don’t want to go there, so they call these things interdimensional. Which, we have no problem with that, because we’re actually talking about the same thing. But from a Biblical perspective, we recognize that as, there’s only two realms. There’s a physical realm, and a spiritual realm. And that spiritual realm is another dimension to us. And these entities are from that realm.
4. Are Aliens extra dimensional beings?
Many researchers today are leaning more toward this hypothesis based on their findings. The research findings show that this is not an extraterrestrial biological entity that we’re dealing with. Rather, the research shows what we’re dealing with here is a spiritual entity, and this is even what the secular realm is starting to see. They call it an “inter-dimensional" or "extra-dimensional" entity. Well, they’re only one step away from using the word “spiritual.” But they won’t go there, because that would actually get them to accept the fact that if there’s a spiritual realm then the Bible must be true. So they call these beings inter-dimensional, which I have no problem with, because we’re actually talking about the same thing. From a Biblical perspective, we recognize there’s only two realms. There’s a physical realm, and a spiritual realm. And that spiritual realm, is another dimension to us. And these entities are from that realm.
I believe they are best described in the Bible here:
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Ephesians 6:12, New International Version
This is the description of a demonic entity from the spiritual realm.
5. Are Abduction Experiencers really taken aboard Alien Space Crafts?
There is no real evidence of this yet today. This is a recorded perception by the experiencer, perpetrated by the Alien Entities. This can happen in a number of the deceptions that these entities use to perpetrate this. You can read about these techniques that they use here.
6. What are some of the things experiencers are reporting about the abduction experience itself?
You can read about this here.
7. How many of those people were you able to help stop abductions and terminate the abduction experience in their life?
The total cases we’ve probably worked with is right around 400 right now, and they are still coming in. That 400 is both of people saying, “I too have done this, stopped this experience”, and also of people saying “can you help me stop this experience?” Out of these 400 cases, probably a third of those have actually been in the position in which they were asking for help after seeing the testimonies posted on our web sites. So about a third of the 400 at this point are the ones that we’ve actually been able to talk to and share with them what we’ve found, and get them to understand what this phenomenon is about, so that they too can be free from this experience, and we were able to help them stop their abductions and terminate the abduction experience in their life.
8. When it comes to stopping abductions, what method works, and does it work for all types of these entities?
The way we work with helping people is getting them to understand that they have been through a deception. And once that recognition is made, it starts them onto a level to where they can understand and cope with the experience, to a point to where they can self-deliver themselves from the experience. What they’re doing is breaking their stronghold that these entities have on them. They must do that themselves. It’s not something we can do for them. We can share with them what I’ve learned from dealing with all of these cases. We can show them the evidence we have of the name and power of Jesus Christ over these entities. And they must recognize this, themself. And then they must be determined to do something about what they’ve recognized. And this process is in taking the steps through the 8 Rs to Freedom that we work with. The 8 Rs process works with all types of these entities.
9. What are the 8 Rs to Freedom, and could you give some detail on the importance of each step?
The 8 Rs to Freedom is a methodology for people to free themselves of this experience.
The first of the Rs is Recognize, that is when people catch a brief glimpse, Recognition, that something’s wrong here. That things aren’t making sense, that there’s something that they need to recognize; that hey, there’s a problem here.
Number two is Responsibility. Responsibility means you take responsibility for what you're recognizing: you do something about it. And then the next steps, are what you do about it, is how you take that responsibility.
The third one is Repent. You want to repent to God Almighty for being involved in this experience, completely; and this comes with true repentance. In other words, you’ve Recognized it, you want to do something about it, and you must have true repentance for being involved in it in the first place. You’ve got to get yourself to where you truly believe and, in your heart, that you really shouldn’t have been involved with this at all. And that’s when true repentance will come.
After that, you need to Renounce this experience completely, for what it is. It’s a demonic experience, it’s something you shouldn’t have been involved in, and you need to openly renounce it.
Number five is Remove it. You must remove all connection to this experience in your life. You need to quit searching this stuff on the internet, looking for answers. For so many people, this is a hard one to get through, because they’ve been involved with it for so long that they don’t want to give it up. But if you can Recognize it, take Responsibility, and Repent, truly repent from it, then that repentance means you’ve also got to Renounce it and Remove it.
In other words, you’ve got to: quit dabbling in it, turn away from it completely, turn toward God’s True Word, get this thing out of your life completely, quit going to conferences, quit watching movies on it: you’ve got to actually stop it from being part of your life. And that’s a very hard one for people to do, because they’ve been involved with it for so long they’re going to miss it, they’re going to still be attracted to it, but they’ve got to get to that point to where, they’re done with it: they move on.
The next one is Resist. In the beginning these entities will continue to attack you, because they’re going to test you for what you truly believe. And they’re going to see if you really have taken this to heart, because they know they’ve had a hook on you for a long time. And they don’t want to be able to allow you to be free; they want to make sure that they keep a bondage over you. And that’s why they continue to try to harass you in some form. So that’s something that you have to warn them of, that it says Resist, and there’s a reason for that; is because they will try to deceive you even more.
If you’ve gone through all these steps, if you’ve been able to walk through all of these steps, number seven, is Rejoice. Rejoice in what God has been able to do for you. People can Rejoice in: God has been able to help them Recognize, God has helped them to take Responsibility, God is accepting their Repentance, God is helping them to Renounce it, God is helping them to Remove it and helping them to Resist it. People can Rejoice in all of that happening to them. People should Rejoice in at least the process is working for them and they’re seeing progress in it. That’s very important. That’s a change in mindset. Believe me, that’s, if you go to church, that’s the praise and worship part of the service. That’s the part where you're actually in full rejoicing of being set free and being one of God’s chosen children. And that’s something that’s very important.
And then the last one, that’s a completion of the full 8 Rs, and the completion of the cycle, is Restore. And what that’s referring to is helping someone else get free. And what they’re talking about there is sharing your testimony, because you reach the lost by the Word of God and your testimony.
10. Does invoking the name of JESUS CHRIST to stop an Abduction experience work for everyone that uses it?
No it does not. For those who have accepted JESUS CHRIST as their LORD and Master and have made a personal relationship with him it does work. You can’t use the name Jesus Christ as a magic word. This has to come in true belief, from the heart. And we’ve actually had many testimonies where it didn’t work the first time, but persistence did show that it worked.
11. Can it ever work for anyone who is not a follower of Jesus Christ?
Yes it can, and we have testimonies of that from our research. Because of the out come of it, it changes that person to be a follower of JESUS CHRIST. They become witnesses to the name and authority over them. This makes for the best evidence for what we have found.
12. Where does the authority of the name JESUS CHRIST come from?
In the beginning of my research, I too questioned the “authority” that the testimonies showed, of terminating the experience. I looked for the answer in God’s Word for quite a while, but I just could not put my finger on it. I finally said, “Lord, help me, I think this is very important to the research.” My understanding was that the sixth chapter of Ephesians was the Spiritual Warfare chapter for dealing with the lies and temptations of the enemy in our lives. I understood that verse 12 identified who we were fighting against.
Those that follow Jesus Christ are Christians, and Christians have access to the power in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. The name above all names. The testimonies you will read in this book give proof to just that.
What gives Christians that access? The answer is found in a mystery, a mystery that was once secret, but later revealed.
The mystery goes like this. The demonic realm has been running this world for quite some time. Then, Jesus is born into the world. They knew who He was (God manifest in the flesh on earth), and they knew there was going to be trouble. They knew the prophesies, and they were seeing them being fulfilled. During his time on Earth, Jesus did give the demonic realm a hard time, putting them in their place.
“Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” Matthew 28:18 (NIV)
So the demonic realm planned to turn the people against Him, to have Him eliminated. They thought that once He was gone, things would return to normal. So they influenced the minds of the people and they had Him crucified. But He rose from the grave on the third day. He defeated death, but He didn’t stay. He rose to the right hand of the Father (God) in Heaven. The demonic realm thought they had won since He was gone.
But wait, Jesus had told His disciples something before He rose up to Heaven, found in Acts 1:4 New International Version (NIV):
“On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.”
On the day of Pentecost, in the Upper Room where they were gathered together, they received the promised gift from the Father, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
From that day forward, believers in the Lord Jesus Christ would all receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Christ in you.
This, was the mystery revealed. Because every believer in the Lord Jesus Christ would have access to the power in the name and authority of Jesus Christ through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The power to defeat the demonic entities that come against them. And the testimonies that you will read in this book, will show just that.
This can be best seen, in the sixth chapter of Ephesians, the spiritual warfare chapter. Verse 12 identifies who we war against:
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Ephesians 6:12 (NIV)
Verses 13 through 17 are about protecting yourself by putting on the whole armor of God in your daily life:
“Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” Ephesians 6:13-17
But you as human beings will tire, you will let down your defenses. Because of that, you have an offensive weapon that will put the demonic realm in its place. The most powerful weapon in the Universe. Those are verses 18 through 20:
“And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.” Ephesians 6:18-20
Let me break it down in simple terms for you. Prayer is a powerful weapon, especially silent prayer (in the spirit) to God the Father. Why silent prayer? Because the demonic realm cannot read your thoughts, but they will make you think they can. I do believe they can influence your thoughts though. This is warfare, don’t give anything away to them.
Now look at verse 19, it says, “that whenever I speak,” but speak to who? Remember, this is the spiritual warfare chapter dealing with the demonic realm. You are speaking, out loud, to the demonic realm. Why? Because they can’t read your thoughts. But, they can hear your voice.
“Words may be given me,” by who? The Holy Spirit, that indwells in the believer of Jesus Christ.
“So that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel.” What mystery? The mystery I shared with you earlier. That we have Christ in us, through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and access to call on the power in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, the name above all names, the power over all the Universe and the earth.
“For which I am an ambassador in chains,” I am a child of God, blood bought by Son of God, Jesus Christ, whom I follow, and are committed to sharing with others. And they have no power over you.
That, is the most powerful force in the Universe, able to break down any stronghold.
13. If I don’t believe in JESUS CHRIST, why should I believe your research findings?
This is what our research has shown us in the many cases we have worked with. It does work and we can help you stop the experience also if you truly want it to stop. The evidence stands by itself, whether you want to accept it or not. The question we have asked all along is, “how many cases does it take for you to see this is real”? If you need more than the many testimonies we have posted for you to read or hear, you only need to come back later to see or hear more. We have them coming in all the time to our researchers.
14. Have you found any other name of a religious personage that stops the experience?
We have heard of only a handful of such cases. But never with the life changing evidence that comes with using the name of JESUS CHRIST. It seems the Alien Entities allow this to give the impression of another name working. The real evidence comes from a true life change of being set free from the oppression that comes with the experience. No evidence is shown that the experience can be terminated completely from their life except through the name of JESUS CHRIST and a personal relationship with him.
15. What causes someone to have an abduction experience?
The secular researchers have been asking the same question for years and years and years, “What causes these people to have this experience?” And actually working in this for over 15 years, we’ve found a commonality amongst experiencers, and have been able to put our finger on an answer for that, that we believe that would fulfill this question. And it comes under 3 different forms. we at CE4 Research Group have found through our research that people can have this experience because of one of three reasons or a combination of these reasons.
The first answer, is that there are actually people that ask for this experience. And we’ve actually been at conferences and working tables where people come up and go, “You know I’d really like to have this experience to see what it’s about.” Be careful what you ask for. Because you open yourself up to that experience wholeheartedly when you do that.
The second one is people unknowingly open themselves up to this experience, and it's by dabbling in the occult, or new age practices, or mystical things. Anything that’s ungodly can open you up to this realm, where you're putting up a billboard to the entities, to say that, “You're welcome here. I’m looking for answers. I’m not looking at it in God’s Word, but I’m looking at it elsewhere.” And they are that elsewhere. They will come into your life and affect you in some form or manner. People that are dealing with anything in paranormal, not just UFO stuff, they open themselves up; ghost experiences, people dealing with psychic abilities, they’ve opened themselves up to that particular experience. It’s like the enemy has a million doors out there, wanting you just to pick one: where God says, “I stand at the door and knock.” So we see most of the people that have become involved with this experience, it’s because they have unknowingly opened a door in their lives, to allow this experience to happen; they’ve been dabbling in areas that they shouldn’t have.
The third one, they said they had had these experiences since they were children. And the one thing that puzzled us was, these children weren’t openly asking for this, and they weren’t really unknowingly opening doors, because they weren’t open to these types of things. They weren’t doing other things that would unknowingly allow that to happen. The more we started questioning the past of their lives: what was your family like, what was your family life like, what were your parents into, and what type of work did they do, or what did they believe? That’s when we usually found an open door. And the open door wasn’t caused by the child: the open door was caused by the family itself; the parents. And that opens it up to a generational curse, or generational cycle of the experience, which secular researchers are seeing, they just don’t have an answer to that. They always want to tie it back to “there’s some genetic trait that allows it to happen”. No, it’s not dealing with that at all: it’s dealing with an open door. Kind of like along “the sins of the fathers”, it’s carried on to the next generation. But also keep in mind that it can be broken, that cycle can be broken, at any time: and through that true belief in Jesus Christ and repentance, and taking the initiative to move on and get free from the experience. And then that will carry on through numerous generations, of being free from these entities’ involvement.
16. Do you believe there is an Alien Entity agenda?
We certainly do. We are seeing through the research that the purpose of the Alien Entities is to change your mindset; to take your mind off of the ONE true GOD. We see this in the communications from these entities, and the messages they give through the experiencers. You can read some of those here. Why would space aliens come all this way to tell us just this one religious belief, Christianity, is wrong? When there are so many other religions that don’t even agree with each other, except that they are all anti-CHRIST. These entities preach an anti-CHRIST New Age Gospel. JESUS CHRIST warned us to be aware of any angel who comes preaching a new gospel. Could this be what he was warning us of, the message we are seeing from the Alien Entities? They are all about deception. They are here to deceive mankind with there false warnings and false prophetic messages. They will do whatever it takes to make you believe them.
17. Is there really a hybridization program going on by the Alien Entities, like the secular researchers report?
True research to date has not proven this, or you would not be asking this question.
We do agree that experiencers have talked about seeing such things during their experiences. But there is no absolute proof that there is a hybridization program of any type going on.
This experience could just be more of the deceptive, (whatever it takes to make you believe), lies that they perpetrate. Just think for a moment... an area that would most hook a woman to believe is through her maternal instinct. Hook her this way and you can convince, (deceive), her into falling for the experience being real.
You will even see some Christian researchers say hybridization is real, based on their interpretation of biblical scripture, but this is NOT proof. (While other Christian researchers say hybridization is not real, also based on their interpretation of biblical scripture.)
The evidence of our research is in the testimonies of the experiencers; that is the proof.
We have not successfully been able to help experiencers terminate their experiences who hang onto this belief. But we have been able to help experiencers terminate their experiences who let go of this belief. This shows us that this belief is just more of the deception. Complete freedom from these attacks involves being set free from all of the deceptions they have perpetrated on you.
Please see the "Modern Hybrid Breeding Program?"
A MODERN HYBRID BREEDING PROGRAM?
excerpted from an interview with Guy Malone, by LA Marzulli
L.A. Marzulli: There seems to be a breeding program that is ongoing, what are your thoughts about that?
Guy Malone: Your wording of the question is indeed my answer... I think that yes, there SEEMS to be a breeding program currently ongoing... there's much anecdotal evidence to support belief in this idea... BUT I don't think that there actually is a breeding program in fact underway - at least not to date.
I am of course aware of Dr David Jacob's work in this field of inquiry and speculation, and feel that he and many others are accurately reporting what abductees (especially female ones) BELIEVE is happening to them. However, I've come to believe that what people believe is happening (like I said earlier) is a visionary experience initiated by fallen angels, and is simply another very large component of "the alien agenda." The agenda is not so much hybridization in my view, but rather *creating a belief system* that hybridization is currently ongoing. But I don't believe that hybridization is actually occurring right now.
For starters, I have yet to see any evidence or solid proof that this is occurring – all of the anecdotal evidence and reports I am aware of can be explained equally as well in ways that do not require hybridization to be taking place today. Additionally, I've seen that modern science supports what Genesis Ch 1, Ch 6, Ch 7, Leviticus Ch 11, and Deut Ch 14 teach repeatedly - that kind only produces after its own kind. Hybridization amongst different species is unsuccessful or downright impossible, and on the rare occasions that two similar enough species can be crossed, the resulting offspring is sterile, or seedless (mules and yummy tangelos come to mind, for instance).
If one argues that true physical aliens are hybridizing with humans, even in the remote unlikelihood that it were successful, the line would stop with the hybrid, as physical reality and all of recorded history shows that hybrids are sterile. No long-term, multi-generational "best of both worlds" hybrid (such as suggested by Stephen Spielberg's mini-series "Taken") could ever result from such a process.
But in Christian ufology circles, we correctly argue that in Genesis 6, fallen angels procreated with human women. It does seem that (probably because the angels shed their first estate to become near-fully human in physical manifestation) that the hybrid Nephilim resulted, and they were not sterile, as the genetic susceptibility for human gigantism continued and passed through the time of the flood (probably through one of Noah's sons' wives...). So, many Christians argue today, as I did for years, that what we are calling "aliens" are really fallen angels mating with humans again, pointing to Jesus' "as in the days of Noah" comments from Matthew 24.
So here's the problem...
My views on this possibility have been changing, with a further focus on something Dr. Heiser has presented- that the term “and also after that” may be better translated as “whenever”. If this is a more accurate translation, then Gen 6:4 would read, “there were nephilim on the earth in those days whenever the sons of God went into the daughters of man…” This seems to mean that a giant of Nephilim proportions is what is produced whenever fallen angels interbreed with humans. If this is what the Word of God teaches, then it can be seen as a theological absolute that modern “hybrids” or “Nephilim” would have to be giants of Nephilim proportions. It seems illogical to argue, merely from abduction reports caused by known deceptive entities, that fallen angels somehow found a way to "dampen" the "giants" issue, to more successfully blend in with humanity today, but it is perhaps unbiblical as well. IF angels are IN FACT mating and reproducing with humans today, why are there no 30 foot tall giants walking around? If angels and humans procreating produces Nephilim giants, plain and simple: where are they today?
I find that I agree with Joe Jordan's, Michael Heiser's, Gary Bates’ and my wife (Nicole Malone)'s stated opinions that fallen angels are more correctly creating a "belief system" that hybridization is currently happening. Joe Jordan posits that all those stories of underground laboratories where women get to see and hold their alleged "hybrid" children is simply a "hook" to keep women loyal and obedient to their fallen angel/alien abductors. Joe has said of women who hold on to this belief system, that he is unable to help them get finally and fully free from the abduction experience, and from regular visitations from these fallen angels claiming to be aliens. But those who abandon the belief that they have a hybrid son or daughter being tended to by the aliens/angels do indeed find freedom from the experience. That in itself should tell us much.
I genuinely believe (true physical alien belief systems aside) that wicked angels are merely capitalizing on your, my, and many others' work in promoting a correct HISTORICAL understanding of Genesis 6 to make it seem like they have more power than they do today, and to keep people (especially females) bound to their unholy influence. Remember also – that God punished the original “invasion cadre” of Genesis 6 angels by placing them in tartarus until the end of the age… is this crime still punishable by the same sentence? Food for thought… Fallen angels may be wanting humans to believe they are hybridizing us today, but there’s a chance that they’re actually afraid to do so because they now know what the punishment will be! It may even be that in the near future, a repeat of the "days of Noah" where human women are producing the hybrid progeny of fallen angels (nephilim) is still to come. However, as I said in my 2005 Ancient of Days lecture, I do not believe that we are quite there yet.
I've also seen that belief in a modern hybridization phenomenon can bear some VERY bad fruit! There are actually Christians today teaching that these ALLEGED human-looking hybrids can't be saved. The Gospel of Jesus Christ can become diluted among those who believe in the hybridization "reality" AND to those whom they should be preaching it to...
I've actually heard from one new Christian, that those very people who led him to Christ later turned and shunned him and would not fellowship with him, based on their new-found belief that he was a hybrid, and therefore wasn't really saved. They based this belief on some things they perceived to be odd about him (he had an Autism Spectrum condition), and more than anything – their own paranoia and fear of human-looking hybrid infiltration. I've also actually met and ministered to a young woman who believed she was a hybrid, and a Nephilim. She didn't even believe she could be saved in Christ, even though she wanted to be. It took some seriously inspired scriptural revelation delivered to her via Pastor Chris Ward and later myself to convince her that she and her family really could be saved by Jesus Christ. She had been told by a pastor of a church that if she was a Nephilim (as she strongly believed), that she could not possibly be saved, and would be condemned by her very blood.
How many more are out there I'm forced to wonder? I'm personally finding repeatedly that one bad fruit of a belief in modern hybridization is that the simple, pure gospel's power is being robbed. This to me, is a successful dimension of the “alien agenda” in that you have real people believing today that the gospel can’t apply to them, and you have Christians believing that the gospel can’t save everyone they meet and therefore shouldn’t be preached or offered to “all creation / every creature.” Sorry to put it this way, but score one for the alien agenda. This belief system needs some serious examination and possibly revision by those of us most prominent in this field.
18. Who do you believe these Alien entities are if they are not Extraterrestrial Biological Entities?
Because of seeing that invoking the name and authority of JESUS CHRIST affects the experience, we had to also look at it from a biblical perspective. Are there entities written about in biblical scripture that show the abilities of these Alien entities? We see that there are. They are called angels. Scripture talks of two types of angels. GOD’s Holy angels, and those referred to as fallen angels. The fallen angels’ purpose is to deceive mankind. The abilities of these fallen angels mirror the ability of these Alien entities. What appears as high technology may only be their actual abilities. Secular researchers use the term interdimensional beings. Scripturally they are spiritual beings with very bad motives toward Humanity.
I will also share with you a good friend and peer’s view on this. This is from Ian Juby.
“Ian joined Mensa in 1994, and was interested in joining a Special Interest Group (SIG). Much to his surprise, he found out there were actually very few SIG's in Canada - and certainly not one on Creation Science. When he first tossed the idea of a Creation Science SIG around amongst other creationists, a group of interested Mensans congealed almost immediately (the original "fab five" as he fondly refers to them). Only one other member was Canadian - and he was leaving the country! So Ian pursued international status for the SIG to accommodate these members, and was granted recognition as an International Mensa SIG in 2004. Today, the SIG has members in Canada, England, the United States and South Africa.
Ian Juby is a young earth creationist who hails from Ontario, Canada. Juby is the director of the Creation Science Museum of Canada, as well as a member of Mensa — Juby is known for using his "high IQ" as an argument from authority when promoting creation science under his YouTube alias Wazooloo.” https://ianjuby.org/
Aliens and Evolution By Ian Juby
You might wonder how on earth a young earth creationist wound up on this topic. I come from a background with a strong interest in anything science and tech (and teaching it since I was 16 years old) and Christian matters (as my Christian faith literally saved my life). I wound up in itinerant ministry for ten years speaking on the creation/evolution controversy. I toured all over North America with my traveling creation science museum with fossils and dinosaurs in the back of my van and eventually, even a bed back there. The bed only had about 18 inches of clearance to the roof of the van, but considering I spent the first two years on the road sleeping across the front seats, that bed was a huge blessing.
I lectured on the topic to all ages and after every session I would have some time allotted for questions and answers. Q&A was always a favorite time for everybody and invariably I would wind up with questions about science and tech that had nothing to do with creation or evolution, nor the topic I had just spoken on. Not that I minded, because I loved science and tech anyway and usually had some knowledge on the question posed.
For the first 6 years or so, the single most common question I would get during Q&A sessions had nothing to do with creation or evolution. It always pertained to questions about global warming. Being Canadian and wishing for that global warming, I had my answer practiced down pat, as you could almost guarantee I would get a question about global warming during every Q&A.
It was also interesting yet strange the insight that Q&A sessions gave me into the current cultural questions. Over the years I watched the most common question change and as a result, I had my finger on the pulse of North American culture and particularly Christian culture as I was mostly speaking in Christian settings. I stopped speaking tours in 2012 and switched gears to producing my weekly television show, Genesis Week. But Genesis Week was a show focused on current events and I took questions from the viewers and addressed them on the air. So
even though I switched gears, I still had a finger on the pulse of the North American culture through the most common questions of the day. In fact, the culture spectrum broadened as the TV show brought in a lot more comments and questions from the non-Christian and even anti-Christian cultures.
For the first six years I was in Creation ministry, the most common question related to global warming. Interestingly, it was perhaps about five or six years ago at the time of this writing that I watched the most common question change once again to the flat earth topic. I was on a live call in show in Alberta four years ago and during the preparation discussion with the show host, I predicted (correctly) what questions we would get from callers and specifically told him “You mark my words, someone will ask about the flat earth theory.” Sure enough!
But it was back around 2006 or 2007 during my speaking tours that my Q&A sessions took a very unexpected and rather dark turn. Virtually overnight the most common question changed from “What about global warming?” to questions about aliens: “Is there alien life on other planets?” “What does the Bible say about aliens?” “Have aliens visited earth?”
The questions almost never directly referenced UFO’s, although UFO’s were kind of presumed to be part of the questions as most people did not differentiate between UFO’s and alien encounters.
While these questions about aliens came primarily from teens, I even had children as young as eight asking these questions.
Of course I had my own thoughts and opinions on it at the time, but I was admittedly pretty ignorant on the topic. The question came up so frequently that I felt I had to study it further. This was especially triggered at one teen Bible camp I was speaking at one summer. In the space of about two days, I had around eight different teens come up to me privately and ask my thoughts and scientific opinion about aliens. About three of those teens were in the space of a half an hour on the second day. Some of the questions showed genuine concern, not just curiosity.
I got down to prayer that afternoon, praying and asking my good Lord Jesus to teach me. Give me wisdom and insight into this topic so I may know what to say.
To this day, I’m still a little shocked at the information overload I received on the topic within the next 24 hours. Especially considering I was in a remote place with extremely limited internet access, and essentially no access to a library or books on the topic. Let’s just say the Lord answered my prayers! I learned so much in that short space of time that there was even quite a bit of that information for which I can now no longer provide the source, because I have since lost the source of the information and never found it again!
This was the start of this journey of learning which was simultaneously fascinating to me, but also had many dark and disturbing turns. CORE Ottawa (Citizens for Origins Research and Education, a charity focused on creation science based out of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada) had taken myself and the Genesis Week show under their wing. CORE’s secretary, Rev. George Desjardins, had previously mentioned aliens in passing conversation. Because of these past conversations, I first called him and he basically just made a blanket statement that aliens were demons and that people encountering them should invoke the name of Christ to get rid of them.
Fair enough, but this was far from answering the questions that were in my mind. I continued to call around and try to research what I could on an incredibly bad internet connection.
I do not even recall how I stumbled upon the next piece of information, although to be fair there was so much information that came to me in less than 24 hours that it truly was like drinking from the fire hose. But I do recall that the next revelation came in the form of statistics that suddenly answered why the question of aliens had become so prevalent. I can’t even give you the source because I do not know where it was I first stumbled upon these statistics. I had either found or was given some brief statistics for which I could neither verify nor refute the authenticity or accuracy at that time. The statistics were that some 1 in 15 people surveyed believed that they had seen a UFO. 1 in 40(!!!) believed they had had an encounter of some kind with an alien, and that encounter was usually the “alien abduction” phenomenon.
So considering the teen group at the Bible camp that week numbered around 100, statistically speaking there was probably 2 or 3 of those teens that had been abducted by aliens. The alien abduction experience is traumatic and confusing, and thus it’s understandable that the abductees would have nagging questions.
At that time in my life it was fairly common to find myself speaking to crowds of three or four hundred, and usually two to three times per week when I was on speaking tours. So just statistically speaking, every week I was unknowingly interacting with probably 25 or so people who believed they had been abducted by aliens. It suddenly becomes no wonder why questions about aliens came up so often.
After encountering these statistics (which I have since found they hold true) and crunching some statistical numbers in my head, I started calling friends of mine across North America in hopes they might give me more insight and wisdom. I was floored when multiple friends, many of whom I’d known for years, confided in me that they had been “abducted by aliens” at one point or another. I was blown away to say the least. Just my small sample group was showing that if anything, the statistics I had received were too conservative. Those friends were all Christians now and were able to relate their personal stories of how, after becoming Christians, these “aliens” eventually left them alone, although sometimes only after directly confronting the “aliens” and invoking the name of Jesus Christ.
But these friends also unanimously shared one other statistic that quickly became apparent: 100% of those who had had encounters with alleged “aliens” had been involved in the occult in some way: either they themselves or their immediate family (mother or father). Now, some 15 years of research later, I have found that particular statistic still holds true. I have yet to find an exception. Furthermore, for people who were ‘raised in Christian churches,’ the numbers of alien abduction encounters appears to drop to zero. There probably is some person out there who was raised in a Christian church but was “abducted by aliens,” I just haven’t met or interviewed them. Regardless, just based on this anecdotal evidence alone, I think it safe to say that the alien abduction statistics drop significantly within the Christian community.
Because my interest has always been scientific and specifically approaching this topic from the perspective of our origins, I started dealing with the “aliens” question from the creation / evolution / science & the Bible approach. When Joseph asked me to contribute to this book, I felt I should stick to this area as it is my area of expertise. I have never experienced the “alien abduction” phenomenon, though I have interviewed many people who have, and who escaped that horrible, traumatizing experience. I have even helped a few people escape it. But Joseph and the others contributing to this book bring far more experience and knowledge to the table with regards to dealing with what I think you will discover is a spiritual phenomenon. While I had had encounters with fallen angels previously, they had never attempted to present themselves as aliens. I knew who they were, and they knew that I knew. These beings did not try to hide their true identity. But our modern culture has made us ripe to receive “aliens,” and these notoriously deceitful beings know this and play into it.
Our society has not only been prepared to embrace “aliens,” but has actively looked for them. The prolific references to aliens in pop culture have made belief in aliens quite common and normal. And I admit, sci-fi would be pretty boring if it weren’t for aliens. But step back and think about it: how many references to aliens have you heard this week? Probably more than you realize, primarily because of pop culture. How many book or movie titles do you recognize in this list?
War of the Worlds, Star Wars, Star Trek, Spaceballs, Contact, 2001 A Space Odyssey, 2001: A Space Travesty, The 5th Element, Abbott and Costello Go To Mars, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Alien, Aliens, Predator, Mars Attacks, Lost In Space, Superman, Ender’s Game, Men In Black, Thor, any of the Avenger’s movies, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, The Last Starfighter…. I could go on for a very, very long time.
Even music with Styx’s hit song “Come sail away” references aliens, but ironically (profoundly?) first refers to them as angels.
But remember the children asking about aliens as well? Hey the kids aren’t left out either! How many of these movies do you recognize? E.T., Aliens in the Attic, Monsters Vs. Aliens, Muppets in Space, The Cat From Outer Space, Planet 51, Mac and Me, even the Dr. Who television series.
While aliens in fiction have been around since the turn of the last century, it has only really taken hold since the advent and acceptance of Evolutionary theory. In fact, the theory of Evolution is the foundation for all things E.T. How? Because once you accept the idea that life arose by natural processes, then it only naturally follows that life could have arisen elsewhere in the Universe. After all, if it happened here, then surely it happened “out there” as well!
In fact, this has become a truism in pop culture, sci-fi and popular science. It has inspired major scientific research projects like SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) and [email protected] Pretty much all of sci-fi and pop culture alien references have the subtle assumption of evolution. I can only think of two exceptions: both were books written by a creationist. This includes Johannes Kepler’s science fiction Somnium in which the character Duracotus is transported to the moon by non-human inhabitants. Of course I’m being very open to include Somnium in my short-short list because if you actually read the book Kepler even calls the non-human inhabitants “demons.” The point being, the acceptance of the idea of aliens is actually rooted in the Evolutionary paradigm.
In the book of Genesis, it tells us “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.” (Genesis 1:14,15 King James Version)
The stars in the heavens were created for the inhabitants of earth. To be for signs, seasons, days and years. The stars weren’t created to be home to Zoltar the space alien. When Christ the Savior came, he came to Earth, not planet Eurocolypse. He died and rose again to save the human race from its sins. In fact, He didn’t even die for the sins of the animals on Earth.
Nowhere in the Bible can you find a hint of extraterrestrials of any kind – save for the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Heaven, and those inhabitants who were cast out of heaven, down on to earth. And all of those beings would technically be outside of the natural realm – extra-natural, not extra-terrestrial. The inhabitants who were cast out of heaven were the fallen angels who followed Lucifer in his rebellion and attempt to overthrow God Himself. Hell was not created for people, rather it was created as punishment for Lucifer (now renamed Satan). This was made clear by Jesus Himself when he spoke of judgment day and what would be said to those who were not redeemed:
“Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” (Matthew 25:41)
And Satan is certainly not some guy in charge of punishing those in the lake of fire. No, the punishment was fashioned specifically for him.
My point though is that the concept of intelligent aliens on other planets comes from the Evolutionary paradigm, and not the Biblical account of Creation. The Biblical Creation account most certainly does speak of non-human intelligent life, but it’s not extra-terrestrial aliens, but rather extra-natural beings.
One of the great ironies of this whole controversy about our origins and intelligent alien life is that the SETI project uses the scientific tool of intelligent design to identify intelligent design in signals from outer space, while denying that the scientific tool of intelligent design could be used to deduce that the SETI scientist’s brains were intelligently designed by a being of mind-boggling intelligence (pun intended).
Nevertheless, from a scientific perspective it’s important to ask questions like “Could life arise by natural processes, without any outside, intelligent intervention
Spoiler alert: Not. A. Chance.
There are very few laws of science and nature. A scientific law only becomes a law because the observations have been consistent, repeated numerous times, never failing and with no contradictions. There are two scientific and natural laws which specifically address this idea that life could arise from natural processes: The law of biogenesis, and the laws of thermodynamics (specifically the second law of thermodynamics).
The law of biogenesis came out of research conducted by Louis Pasteur in 1864. It was his experiments that led to the Pasteurization process we know of today. Basically, the law of biogenesis is that Life only comes from life, and that like begets like. We have never seen an exception to this scientific and natural law. So any process that produces life from non-life is neither natural, nor scientific because it defies this well established, scientific and natural law. Such a process would be, by very definition, an extra natural / supernatural process! A miracle.
So congratulations, whether you believe we were created or you believe we evolved, you believe in the supernatural. This should make the uncomfortable discussions of supernatural entities undertaken in this book much easier for you.
There are very good reasons why life only comes from life. The only way life can arise from a rock sitting in a pond is imagination. Let me give you a quick example of why that is, pointed out to me by my good friend, Stan Lutz, many moons ago.
The cells in your body and brain are composed of, and even controlled by, proteins, the basic building blocks of life. Some proteins act as building blocks, others as enzymes, still others act as hormones. These proteins are built up from smaller components called amino acids. There’s about 20 different amino acids to choose from and you can think of them like Lego™. You have 20 different Lego pieces to build with, and what you use and how you assemble them radically changes the design and shape of the final construction. In fact, if you get one wrong piece or even the right piece put in in the wrong way, you may not be able to complete your construction. It’s the same way with proteins.
If you put two amino acids together and you have 20 amino acids to choose from, how many different combinations can you make?
20 x 20 = 400 different combinations. It’s calculated as 202 – 20 options, and 2 in a sequence. If you add a third amino acid to the construction, and it too can be any one of the 20 amino acids available, then you can have 203(written out that’s 20 x 20 x 20) = 8,000 different combinations to choose from. Add another amino acid to the construction and you have 204 = 160,000 different combinations. And by the way, during this construction you have to get the correct combination all the way along. You have to add the correct piece out of a choice of 20 pieces, add it in to the construction in the right sequence, over and over again. Or else, like our Lego construction, you will be unable to successfully build the construction.
You can quickly start to see where Sir Francis Crick, co-discoverer of the DNA double helix, gets his numbers in his book Life Itself. (1) He used a smaller protein of only 200 amino acids long as an example. The number of combinations is simply written as 20200. This equates to approximately 10260 different combinations. Written out, that’s 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different combinations of amino acids you can achieve.
Effectively, only one of those combinations is the correct one.
To help you grasp the sheer astronomical size of that number, it has been estimated that the total number of atoms in the entire Universe is around 1080! (Yes, someone with apparently too much time on their hands actually sat down and figured that out.)
The universe is claimed by the naturalists to be around 13.8 billion years old – give or take a week or two. I don’t believe that number, but let’s go with it. 13.8 Billion years x 365 days X 24 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds means the universe is 435,196,800,000,000,000 seconds old.
So you have 435,196,800,000,000,000 seconds in which to try out all 10260 different combinations. So dividing 10260 different combinations by 435,196,800,000,000,000 seconds means you have to mix and match 2,297,811,013,316,274,384,370,473,312,303,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different combinations of amino acids every second, for 13.8 billion years to be guaranteed you’ll arrive at the single correct combination of amino acids to construct one protein.
And that was a short protein.
Do you know how many proteins you ate for breakfast this morning?
Your body produces at least tens of millions of proteins every day, so you can like, keep on being alive and stuff.
This isn’t a simple formula of odds or chance. What I’ve shown here is what would be required of a process unguided by intelligence to produce one relatively short protein. This is not at all like the seemingly impossible odds of a major lottery. The odds of winning the lottery can be exceedingly small. But someone, somewhere will win in spite of the exceedingly small odds.
Our protein-formed-by-chance doesn’t even have a chance. The odds are not exceedingly small, they are literally zero. You cannot win this lottery for the simple reason that the lottery cannot be set up with a draw and a prize. It’s physically impossible. There are literally not enough atoms in the universe to make the lottery – the “natural” process by with which to try the astronomical numbers of combinations you need to try for the chance forming of the correct combination. And then you’d need to repeat that process at least dozens of times more just to make enough proteins to make some basic components of a single cell. And even then, you still do not have “life.”
It is a literal, physical impossibility for life to arise from unguided processes. It has to have been assembled by a higher intelligence. So to make claims like “Hey, life evolved here, surely it evolved somewhere else!” is not only a non-sequitur, it’s a nonsensical statement. The impossibility I just described is for the formation of one protein in our entire known universe. So the “odds” against alien life are now infinite x 2 because you will need to accomplish the impossible not just once, but twice within the same universe.
No, life could not evolve from non-life here and so therefore could not have evolved elsewhere. That is a major, scientific reason why we can confidently deduce there is no intelligent, alien life on other planets.
I know, boring.
The conflicting origin accounts of evolution or creation really do exhaust all other possibilities. The Raëlians are a religious group out of France, founded by its leader, Claude Vorilhon now known as Raël. Raël claims that there is a third option for the origins debate:
“In “Message from the Designers”, Rael presents us with the vast amount of information that he received during his UFO encounters in 1973 - a third option: all life on earth having been created by advanced scientists from another world.”(2)
I disagree. They have not presented a third option, they have dodged the origins question. They have simply sent the origins question to a far away, distant planet and we are still left asking the question “Ummm… did these alien scientists evolve? Or were they created?”
The Raëlians believe these alien scientists to be natural beings when I’ve already demonstrated the first life had to have been supernatural.
Ironically, though creationists acknowledge the supernatural origin of the first life, the creation model still follows the law of biogenesis: we still claim the first life on earth came from pre-existing life. We just have that pre-existing life, our Creator, as being from outside of the natural realm. In fact, He created that natural realm and the laws of nature imposed upon it. You know, those laws which dictate that life cannot arise from non-life? This is precisely why you do not see a rock giving rise to living cells.
So then if it’s scientifically impossible for there to be alien life on other planets, then what on earth is going on with all these alleged alien encounters? Think about those statistics for a second: 1 in 40 people have had a horrible experience of being abducted by these “aliens,” and when you hear the testimonies, you’ll notice it’s never a pleasant experience. Think of 40 different people you know. At least one of them has been abducted by an alien. Those are staggering numbers. Think about how many people are in your little town, or big city. Now start dividing that number up statistically. That’s an incredibly high number of encounters with alleged “aliens.” If you’ll please pardon a second pun, what on earth is going on there?
These descriptions of these “aliens” are also very consistent and these “aliens” seem to have a penchant for expressing their religious views and are very anti-Christ. Their message is quite consistent:
Alien: The end of the world is nigh. We want to help you help yourself. We want to help you bring world peace by establishing a one-world government. You should explore the occult. Christ and Christians must be removed from earth before we can help you to help yourself.
Me: Wait, what? You just traveled fifteen bazillion light years to torture me and say you want to help me? You came all this way to preach your religious views and discuss spirituality with me? And what’s your beef with this Jesus guy anyway? Did He come visit you on your distant planet? Here, show me on this doll where He hurt you.
Look at the influence on major occults that have arisen out of conversations with these “aliens.” I already mentioned the Raelians, just have a look at their writings. It’s all there. The Heaven’s Gate website is still maintained, decades after the group’s mass-suicide, so you can go and read for yourself why they did this.(3) It was because of their communication with beings claiming to be aliens coming with a spaceship in time with comet Hale-Bopp. These beings convinced these people that leaving earth for the “Kingdom of Heaven” was the next step in their evolution.
Can you start to see a theme here?
If we were created by a supernatural, hyper-intelligent being, then we should ask the question “Who is that Creator?” It’s important. There’s only one person ever to visit planet earth who claimed He was the Creator incarnate. Who demonstrated his supernatural abilities in front of countless witnesses, including multitudes of hostile witnesses. He demonstrated his ability to go between dimensions, even walking through solid walls into a room, startling those who were gathered there (John 20:19). He was the only one to say “...I am the way, the truth, and the life…” (John 14:6) and then demonstrated his authority to that claim by defying scientific and natural law and doing what the combined sum of all of our best minds on planet earth cannot do: He rose from the dead.
If Jesus Christ is our Creator (and I would contend He is), then the things He said become of paramount importance. He described angels both in heaven, and those cast out of heaven, to earth. (Luke 10:18) We know from the things Jesus said and also the testimonies of multitudes that these angels are extra-natural beings who can take on different forms in our natural world. If the “aliens” visiting planet earth are simply fallen angels, then suddenly everything makes sense. Their distinct hate-on for Christ would make sense, as He is the one they rebelled against and tried to overthrow, only to find themselves hurled out of the Kingdom of Heaven down to earth. They can’t hurt Christ directly, so they instead hurt those whom He loves: the human race. They still want a kingdom for some strange reason, and so they deceive people and try to start their own kingdom here on earth. Hence their strong interest in a one-world government which, interestingly, the Bible discusses at great length in the final book of Revelations. That book tells us this one-world government will happen, headed by the “anti-Christ.” If Jesus is the Creator, and these alleged aliens are simply created, fallen angels, then He has power over them. This explains why the “aliens” respond to the name of Jesus Christ when people who have repeatedly been attacked (“abducted”) call upon Him to save them.
It’s simple, really. These “aliens” are not extra-terrestrials, but rather extra-naturals who have the ability to transit between our natural world, and the extra-natural world we are in but cannot see with our natural eyes. But we have an advocate who really does love you and I, and can also transit between our natural world and the extra-natural world. As you will hopefully see in this book, Jesus can defend you.1
1 1) Francis Crick, Life Itself – Its Origin And Nature, 1982, Publisher Simon & Schuster, pages 51-52
"If a particular amino acid sequence was selected by chance, how rare an event would this be? This is an easy exercise in combinatorials. Suppose the chain is about two hundred amino acids long; this is, if anything rather less than the average length of proteins of all types. Since we have just twenty possibilities at each place, the number of possibilities is twenty multiplied by itself some two hundred times. This is conveniently written 20200 and is approximately equal to 10260, that is, a one followed by 260 zeros. Moreover, we have only considered a polypeptide chain of rather modest length. Had we considered longer ones as well, the figure would have been even more immense. The great majority of sequences can never have been synthesized at all, at any time."
2) From the website preview page of Rael’s book “Intelligent Design – Message from the Designers” Caution-https://www.rael.org/download.php?view.1
3) http://www.heavensgate.com/ From Heaven’s Gate website: “The joy is that our Older Member in the Evolutionary Level Above Human (the "Kingdom of Heaven") has made it clear to us that Hale-Bopp's approach is the "marker" we've been waiting for — the time for the arrival of the spacecraft from the Level Above Human to take us home to "Their World" in the literal Heavens.”
19. How real can the abduction experience feel/be to those who experience it?
There are different levels of how much they feel the experience is real. A lot, a high percentage of experiencers - and a lot of the other secular researchers will even attest to this - will describe it as “I’ve had these dreams”. And that’s a key thing to consider there: is on that level these people have had a dream-state-like experience that they’re remembering.
There are those though, not a high percentage, but once they’ve been able to get to where they have major recollections of these dreams, the reality of the experience itself seems more intense, and to a higher level. It’s real to the point to them that they’re having a hard time discerning whether it actually physically happened to them.
As far as very real experiences: fallen angels have the power to create “vision” scenarios that are real, in the sense that it really does happen to the person. It doesn’t happen in physical space and time. But as far as memory and recall though, the person did experience that. The experiences really do happen to the individual, but the fallen angel initiates it, then the fallen angel and the person have a Visionary Experience, that is real, but as soon as the fallen angel ends that experience, the entities seen and any constructed location, inside a spaceship etc., cease to exist. In a minority of cases, these experiences can seem completely physically real to the individual, because the fallen angel made it seem real, which is the nature of these Visionary Experiences. But it’s not real in space and time. While fallen angels may manifest to cause physical injuries to an abductee, these highly real-seeming experiences are Vision Experiences, as fallen angels and Holy angels are seen causing in the Bible. And this level of reality is much more rare.
The vast majority of abduction experiences are in that dream-state. A lot of people use the term in the “astral state” or “Out of Body Experience state”, but that’s all pretty much all in the same venue of the experience itself.
I had been talking with Gary Bates about our findings in our two separate research endeavors in the phenomenon, our discussions led to the subject
of hypnosis. Not about hypnotic regressions on the experiencers as many
researchers were doing, but the similarities that Gary was seeing of stage hypnosis and the experience itself. The similarities were uncanny. The recall of an experience was very similar to the recall of someone who had been stage hypnotized and given powerful suggestions, like participating in a play on stage.
There are props used that help set the atmosphere for the people watching a stage play, but only certain suggested props, to get the point across. Not everything needs to be there, as in reality, to know what idea is being put across.
I thought a lot about this idea and started to explore this a little on my own with some of the testimonies I had worked with over the years. I had only taken their recollection of their experiences and documented them for the record.
With this new idea, I wanted to go back to them and ask more in-depth questions of the experience itself. As I did this, I started finding similarities among the many testimonies that were unusual. Things were missing.
Let me give you an example. If I ask you to sit and recall everything you
can remember about your last birthday, you would easily be able to do that, at least the really impressionable things that happened.
On your first round of sharing your memory, the most impressionable things or important things to you will come out.
If I question you about less remembered details, I would be able to help you recall them because they were still recorded in the memory banks of your brain. Just by asking the right questions. All of the senses would have been at work recording the experiences of the day. You just might need help bringing them forward. And keep in mind I am not using hypnosis for memory recall with experiencers. I just ask the right questions.
Even if you wake up from a very vivid dream but can’t remember it clearly,
your own mind will fill in the details so a complete picture is created. It may be a puzzling dream, a nightmare, or a recollection of a lived event, but everything is filled in. It’s complete, and actually a quite amazing feat for the human brain if you take the time to think about it.
But, when I did the same thing with the testimonies I re-interviewed,
there were gaps of memory. Not all of the senses had recorded information of the experience. It was like that stage play setting that Gary Bates had talked about, having only what was needed to make the play “seem” real. They were sensational, yes, but the sensational points were all that there was to the memory.
An example if you will.
One of the best descriptions of the so-called alien abduction experience I have ever seen demonstrated, comes from a Hollywood movie. The movie was not about alien abductions, but definitely explains what I am trying to share with you.
The movie was the first Matrix film, and the scene in question is the one in which Neo (Keanu Reeves), is first being plugged in. He lays down in the
recliner like chair on the ship, and they hook him up from the back of his head, and he is instantly in this area that is all white, nothing else.
Then Morpheus is there. They walk to a living room scene, only furniture is there, but you realize it’s a living room setting.
Now, here is the most important part of that scene in relation to alien abductions, Neo is still on the bed-he never went anywhere.
Everything, points to this so-called alien abduction experience as being a planted demonic visionary experience, becoming a false memory.
The alien abduction experience is not a true to life physical experience, but it can leave physical support evidence to help perpetrate the delusion. In other words, whatever it takes to make that person believe it is alien, extraterrestrial from another world.
This confirms the fact that there is no real physical alien/human hybridization program going on. There are no demonic angelic/human
hybrid beings walking among us that cannot be saved by the Grace of God. There are only demonically influenced humans, for which I have no doubt at all, are walking among us.
The whole concept of alien, or demonic angelic/human hybrids on earth today, and the promotion of the belief that they cannot be saved, is just another aspect of this Strong Delusion to make people doubt Gods Word.
It is the old “Serpent Seed” heresy, just repackaged into a modern-day guise.
Sadly, this is actually being taught in our churches, not at UFO conferences.
Everything, points to this as a demonic delusion, perpetrated upon humanity by evil spiritual entities, capable of producing lying signs and wonders.
The purpose being, to take humanities off the one true God of the Bible. In turn, leading them to an eternal damnation and separation from God.
20. Would you explain what is meant by “good cop/bad cop” in relation to abductions?
The experiences that these abduction experiencers have with these entities are very traumatic in nature; medical examinations, sexually oriented experiences during the experience. And they seem to continue for a good period of time.
But there are cases, many cases, where the experience changes at some point, and there’s a different entity involved. One that seems more angelic, or more high spiritual motives to the experience. And what we’re seeing here when that happens, is more communication between the entities and the experiencer themselves. And that communication comes from this second entity that becomes involved with the experience.
What we’re seeing here, this is referred to as Stockholm Syndrome in the UFO community. Because what happens is, these experiences that the abduction experiencers have when they first start out are very traumatic, but somewhere along the line, you recognize that these experiencers have become messengers for the entities themselves. And that’s when you find out that there’s been that second level of experience come into their lives. And in other words, they’ve sided with the enemy.
That’s what the Stockholm Syndrome refers to. It was termed looking at prisoners of war, where they come in and relieve these prisoners of war from their captivity, but once they did that and talked to them, these prisoners were actually saying the same thing their captors were saying. They had actually sided with their captors, after all they’d been through, they were siding with the ideology of the captors. And it confused the military when they first encountered that; they didn’t understand how that was possible. And as psychiatrists and psychologists started looking at it, they saw how that worked, and it’s a brainwashing effect. And what you’re actually seeing here is a portrayal like we see in TV shows of “Good Cop, Bad Cop”. You got one cop that is beating you down during interrogation, and the other cop is in the same room with you, and he’s trying to be the nice guy to you. But keep in mind, they’re both cops, they’re both after the same thing. And that’s what we’re seeing with this abduction experience, is that even though the experience starts out traumatic, they have an agenda to bring you to another level, to where you become a disciple of them, and you actually are their messenger here on earth. And that’s what their main agenda seem to be, to turn you into that particular testimony for them. And you see the same thing in people that have become involved in cults. Whether it be UFO cults, or Bible-based cults, or whatever; there’s a brainwashing that goes on.
21. What about alien implants?
By Joe Jordan and Paradox Brown
This article intends to focus on the topic of “alien abduction implants” from various Christian perspectives. A basic assumption taken here will be that “alien abductions” are actually caused by fallen angels or demonic entities. This assumption is based off of the numerous documented cases of “alien abductees” which testify that their abductions have stopped in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, using spiritual warfare methods.(1)
There have been numerous reports from “alien abductees” of receiving from “aliens” what the UFO research community commonly calls “implants”.
Implants are said to be small solid foreign objects of earth-based materials, usually of metal or ceramic, found imbedded in an abductee. Sometimes, though not always, abductees will say they remember a medical procedure in which the area of the body implanted in was the target of the procedure. These procedures, when remembered, are often said to be quite painful, involving long needles or drills, and no anesthesia.
Perhaps the most recent Christian research into the mechanics of an actual abduction experience, caused by an evil spirit, is that these experiences are real-seeming visions. These visions are completely real-seeming to the bodily senses in many cases. That these visions are mental can be established in the fact that there are documented cases that abductees can have an abduction experience, while a witness present sees the abductee does not go anywhere nor physically experience what the abductee later recounts as having happened. In the Bible, angelic visions are described in such a way that it seems they were often completely real to the bodily senses. As such, fallen angelic visions have a Biblical precedent for also being highly realistic experiences.
In some of these encounters with evil spirits, there is a perceptible level of physicality to the experience. This is seen in that injuries, such as bruises, cuts, puncture wounds, etc. are present on the abductee after the experience. Sometimes the person does not remember they have had an abduction experience, but still will notice unusual unexplained physical injuries that they cannot account for. These injuries likely are attributable to the same evil spirits causing the vision experience of alien abductions. There are cases in the Bible of angels causing physical injury to people; perhaps the most notable is the case of Job, in which Job was inflicted with boils by Satan.
And then there are the small foreign objects that have been taken out of people who have had the “alien abduction” experience; commonly called “implants”. Usually these implants have no entry wound or scar, but in fact appear like the object materialized under the skin without passing through the skin.
What should Christians make of “implants”, coming from the perspective that “alien abductions” are actually caused by fallen angels?
Assuming that a metal or ceramic object has been removed from an abductee, the first question is whether or not fallen angels actually did implant this object into a person. It would seem that fallen angels are capable of doing this. But do they? Is this the only option?
Doctors do report that sometimes objects can become embedded in a person accidentally, without the person being aware of it. If this was the case with an abductee, there stands a possibility that fallen angels might just play off of this sort of unknown embedded foreign object. A fallen angel could tailor the vision of an abduction experience to include the deception of a medical procedure to implant an object, which has already been present for some time in the abductee through normal circumstances. (2)
It is interesting that of all the supposed implants that have been removed from abductees, none seem to be technology, but rather are inanimate bits of metal or ceramic of a normal earthly composition. This is just the type of object composition one would expect to find from accidental embedding during the normal course of life. There are no documented cases of implants having any technological purpose or intelligent design to them. These objects are inanimate, and benign in their affect on the body. (3)
As this is the case, for an abductee or former abductee, it is rather impossible to tell whether or not the fallen angelic abduction experiences actually are the origin of any such foreign object found, or if the object may have appeared through natural means.
There is also the case in which an abductee may perceive that they have an implant, seeming to feel some hard object under the skin, having heard such is common among abductees. Without x-rays or other medical scans of that area of the body, no one can say for sure if such is a foreign object. There are many sorts of hard growths that can occur naturally in the body. These can include polyps, cysts, tumors, calcium spurs, small bone growths, and many other things. This kind of thing should be checked out by a doctor, to see if it is benign, and to see if it requires treatment. Sometimes growths like these will go away on their own. (4)(5)
For those abductees that do have an unidentified foreign object under their skin, if it is a biological growth, that’s appearance coincides with a recent abduction experience, there is some possibility that fallen angels may have caused the biological growth. There is also the possibility that the growth would have occurred naturally, whether an abduction experience had taken place or not.
For abductees, there can remain unanswered questions as to the nature of hard growths, or hard objects, found or perceived in their body. There is little way to tell for sure as to whether an evil spirit responsible for an abduction experience is responsible for these objects or not. Many people which are not abductees, have hard growths under the skin, or find embedded objects in themselves accidentally. These things happen to everybody, including people who have never had a single abduction experience.
As such, there is no need for abductees to claim that they have “implants”. This is a belief that is not, and summarily cannot, be supported by actual proof. While abduction experiences do happen to people, these are deceptive experiences. As many non-abductees experience hard growths and objects unknowingly embedded in them naturally, it is entirely possible that those evil spirits responsible for abductions simply deceptively play off of what are natural occurrences.
22. Are there races of these Alien entities?
We see the appearance of different races. But there is no actual evidence of this. It is a belief in the UFO community only. Remember that these entities are deceptive in nature, (whatever it takes to make you believe). We know they can appear in many guises, as reported by the experiencers testimonies. This idea of different races when looked at from a biblical perspective is quite interesting. Look at the scripture Ephesians 6:12, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in the Heavenly realm”. This shows a hierarchy of the demonic realm. So they just may appear different or have different purposes because of that reason. We believe we are dealing with the elite of this hierarchy, the most deceptive, the most intelligent, the most powerful, to bring forth this deception of this being Aliens. Also this scripture tells us they are spiritual beings not physical beings. Although they have the ability to manifest into physical form if needed to perpetuate their deceptive agenda, to deceive mankind.
23. Do you believe any real Extraterrestrial Biological Entities or flying saucers are mentioned in the Bible?
As far as extraterrestrial biological entities or UFOs or flying saucers being mentioned in the Bible, we would have to say no. We think what’s happening is people in this UFO realm are taking things from a UFO perspective and making the Bible fit that perspective. And that’s something that is not allowed if you're looking at Scripture. You have to take the Scriptural view, and look at what its saying, actually. You can’t go the other way around, which is what they’re trying to do.
24. How would you describe the different categories of UFOs?
The research is showing that 99% of UFO experiences are either man-made or natural phenomena. There is usually an explanation. It’s usually not an unidentified as much as it’s a misidentified. People see things in the sky all the time, you see something its going across the sky, its silvery, its bright, even in the daylight, but odds are, that’s an aircraft.
People have taken this to a level that is just unbelievable over the years. I mean, the actual idea of MUFON is the investigation of unidentified flying objects, not alien spacecraft. If you're looking at from a scientific point of view, all they’re doing is investigating things that people can’t identify that they’re seeing. But odds are it’s mostly: a natural phenomenon or a manmade object. It’s that small percentage that they’re investigating that they don’t have an answer to. And that classifies it ‘unidentified’. But just because it’s unidentified doesn’t automatically make it an alien spacecraft. It’s only unidentified. They don’t have an answer to it. That’s why it’s called unidentified.
So people, even people in MUFON, have taken this to a level that automatically UFO means alien spacecraft. That it does not, though. It only means it's something unidentified, and this is what Hollywood’s taken to another level. We worked on a lot of sighting reports before we switched over to working on abductions. And everything that we worked on seemed to be pretty matter-of-fact Misidentifies. We can only say that there was probably a couple that actually even fit into the supernatural experience. This has been taken to a level where people automatically think that a lot of the experiences in the UFO realm are supernatural - but they’re not. There’s only a very small percentage.
25. What do we know about Alien Abductions and those that experience it?
Many of the experiencers are distraught, troubled people.
Most seem to be suffering from the signs of PTSD type effects from their experiences.
There are some cases where the experiencer says that they are more (special) from their experiences, they say they did not have a terrifying experience, but an enlightening one.
Most all abduction experiences happen while the person is sleeping, whether it be during the waking day, or at night.
Most recall, some type of medical examinations performed during the experience by the entities.
Some report that an alien / human hybridization program is going on, impregnating human women, and extracting the hybrid children later.
Looking at the recent polls on abductions
The 2017, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment survey also reported that 18 percent of Americans believe that alien abductions happen, which is about 57.6 million Americans, or roughly 1 in 5.
The survey also indicated that a majority of the respondents, about 50 percent, believe alien abductions happen because of a genuine interest in the human anatomy.
My personal venture in to Ufology started in the summer of 1992.
At that time in my life, I had no interest in the subject of UFOs and aliens.
Do not get me wrong, I loved Science Fiction movies and books. I had read many science fiction books as a teenager and kept the interest through the great Hollywood movies about space over the years.
The thing I love most about Science Fiction, is that it is a great form of escapism. For a short time, you can be someone else, in a faraway world, in another galaxy, or on a spaceship cruising though the vast cosmos.
Being what I would call an agnostic humanist at that time in my life, the idea of worlds far advanced and more evolved than Earth, was easily feasible, but really of no everyday importance for my study or inquiry.
However, that was to quickly change, as I opened a book that I had bought for a long trip on an airplane ride for my vacation.
A book, that at first appearance, read as a Science Fiction story, but the synopsis on the back cover, stated it was a scientific research investigation. An investigation of a crashed flying saucer outside of a small town in New Mexico in 1947. That book was “UFO Crash at Roswell”.
This book puzzled me, as I looked it over. It was blurring that dark fine line that separates fantasy from reality. The seduction to understand how that was possible. was overwhelming to me. I bought the book, and quickly read it through.
When finished, I had more questions than the book had answers on the subject of this UFO matter.
During my quest for answers, I was introduced to the Mutual UFO Network, a not-for-profit, grass roots, secular, UFO investigative and research group, founded in 1969.
Seeing this as an avenue to find answers for this strange phenomenon, I joined and became a Field Investigator, then eventually a State Section Director for the county I live in. The county where the Kennedy Space Center is located, Brevard County, Florida.
I became the go-to person for anyone wanting to report an Unidentified Flying Object in the skies over Brevard County, some of the
most guarded and restricted airspace in the world, due to the launches of rockets and the Space Shuttle at that time.
I started holding monthly MUFON meetings open to the public as a responsibility of being a State Section Director. Public meetings where we could share the work we were doing for MUFON. We could also use the meetings to encourage membership, as well as give UFO experiencers an opportunity to share their stories with someone who would listen to them, and maybe take them seriously.
The people attending the meetings came from many different occupations, ranging from construction workers, to homemakers, to medical professionals, or even Engineers, from the nearby Space Center.
Most of them had a story to share, whether it be a UFO sighting report, or an alien abduction experience. In addition, some came, because they were just curious.
The most interesting cases were those of alien abductions. Logically thinking, these people were the front line of this phenomenon. They claimed that they taken, experimented on, and communicated to, aboard the craft that we were investigating and completing sighting reports for.
I began to realize, that the abduction experiencers were the front line of this phenomenon, and if we wanted to get the best answers for what this was, our focus needed to be with them.
So, we formed a separate research entity, apart from MUFON, but open to sharing everything that we would find with them. MUFON was not
structured at that time to investigate alien abductions. We would continue to follow-up and report UFO sightings, but we would focus more heavily on the alien abduction experience.
We were very cautious in moving into the research realm in the beginning, we didn’t want to hurt these people any more than what they were already dealing with. So, we consumed as much of the available abduction research material that we could find at that point in time.
These are some of the findings into Alien Abductions that we had looked into.
The late Dr. Karla Turner, an alien abduction experiencer herself, reported the following memories and findings from her experiences and research into the phenomenon.
1) Aliens can alter our perception of our surroundings.
2) Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us in any number of guises, and shapes.
3) Aliens can take us--our consciousness--out of our physical bodies, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities before returning our consciousness to our bodies
4) Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state, and can make themselves only partially visible.
5) Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the well-known scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three- and four-fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.
6) Females abductees often suffer serious gynecological problems after their alien abduction encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breasts and uterus, and to hysterectomies.
7) Aliens take body fluids from our necks, spines, blood veins, joints (such as knees and wrists), and other places. They also inject unknown fluids into various parts of our bodies.
8) A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses that they didn't have before their encounters. These have led to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes that the doctors can't identify.
9) Some abductees experience a degeneration of their mental, social, and spiritual well-being. Excessive behavior frequently erupts, such as drug abuse, alcoholism, overeating, and promiscuity. Strange obsessions develop and cause the disruption of normal life and the destruction of personal relationships.
10) Aliens show a great interest in adult sexuality, child sexuality, and in inflicting physical pain on abductees.
11) Abductees recall being instructed and trained by aliens. This training may be in the form of verbal or telepathic lessons, slide shows, or actual hands-on instruction in the operation of alien technology.
12) Abductees report being taken to facilities in which they encounter not only aliens but also normal-looking humans, sometimes in military uniforms, working with the alien captors.
13) Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien during an experience, not just the grays. Every possible combination of gray, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen during single abductions, aboard the same craft, or in the same facility.
14) Abductees--"virgin" cases--report being taken to underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures, nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid, filled with parts of human bodies.
15) Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, dismembered, and stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don't co-operate with their alien captors.
16) Aliens come into homes and temporarily remove young children, leaving their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The children belong to us."
17) Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse with aliens, and even with other abductees, while groups of aliens observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the
abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.
18) Aliens perform extremely painful experiments, or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary, but give no explanation why.....Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults.
19) Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and destruction. They say that a certain number of humans...will be "rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over. Many abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and foresee instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans.
Rose Hargrove, RN, saw a new and emerging syndrome in this alien abduction phenomenon, and attempted to define the cluster of symptoms and behaviors that were recognized among many of its experiencers.
Termed, Post Abduction Syndrome, it was recognized as an anxiety disorder that is closely related to Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. The experiencers report the re-calling of fragments, or distortions of their abduction related memories. There are often accompanied symptoms of increased anxiety and the avoidance of any stimuli related to abduction memories or abduction related events.
Some of the characteristic symptoms found of PAS are:
Persistent re-experiencing of the traumatic event, characterized by flashbacks
Persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma
Denial of the event
Labeling the event as something else-"blackout", being lost, etc.
Phobic avoidance of areas or situations where the contact occurred.
Refraining from sleep at the time that the contact occurred-now sleeping in the daytime
Emotional reaction to literature, pictures, or videos about alien entities. Example, turning over books with a picture of an alien or UFO, which may even include avoiding them.
The numbing of emotions and responsiveness characterized by the inability to feel intimacy, pleasure, or to express emotions- in other words, emotional anesthesia.
Diminished interest, or less participation, in previously enjoyed life activities.
May have a sense of a foreshortened future
May fear an alien abduction with no return, or a lengthy abduction.
Anxiety symptoms that persist, like hypervigilance, exaggerated startle response, irritability, or even panic attacks
Anxiety symptoms include but are not limited to:
Sleep disturbances such as difficulty falling or staying asleep, Hyper vigilance, exaggerated startle response, sleepwalking, vivid nightmares, panic attacks, alien phobia, restlessness, worry, and difficulty concentrating.
Something to Note though:
Post Abduction Syndrome, differs from PTSD, in that as the abductions may have occurred since early childhood, it is difficult to determine precisely when the trauma began, as in PTSD where there is a discrete, and identifiable traumatic event recognized.
In contrast to Posttraumatic Stress Disorder where survivor guilt may be present, there may be guilt at being different, or of contributing to the factors that cause the abductions to occur either to the subject or to family members.
Some remedies PAS that experiencers may employ are:
Joining fundamentalist religious groups, New Age spiritual groups, altered states therapies, or Self-help programs.
Repeatedly returning to areas where the abductions occurred.
The person may even develop, an obsessive interest in aliens and UFOs.
The person may seek help from the psychotherapeutic community, only to be labeled as mentally ill.
26. Since there is so much talk about saviors from or going into the heavens, has this fueled more sightings?
Also how would we explain certain knowledge-based presumptions the past peoples have had that modern day society has just now discovered to be true.
Here is an article from my friend and research peer Gary Bates on that subject.
UFOlogy: the world’s fastest-growing ‘scientific’ religion? By Gary Bates and Lita Cosner Published: 12 May 2011
Many people wonder why we write about the UFO phenomenon. Isn’t it just a ‘side issue’? But in fact, it’s so important to oppose this particular belief, because ET belief is quickly becoming the world’s most scientifically acceptable false religion and a major stumbling block to Christianity. And although some of its adherents are serious followers, the reality is, that polls show that belief in UFOs is mainstream and held by the average ‘Joe’ in the street. For example, a CNN/Time Magazine poll in 1997, found, among other things that;
80% believe that the government is hiding the existence of extraterrestrial life forms
64% believe aliens have contacted humans
50% believe that aliens have abducted humans
93% have never been abducted
75% believe that a UFO crashed near Roswell
So, in one sense, the majority of the population believes that UFOs are real physical craft piloted by beings from other planets. Does that make them adherents in the religious sense? The purpose of this article is to sound a clarion call that such beliefs make people vulnerable to further and possibly deeper deception. This is why it is important to place all of our thinking on the Bible, and not be misled into thinking that because the universe is so big, that there must be extraterrestrial life on other planets. Our view that God did not create life on other planets has even made us relatively unpopular among Christian friends. However, as this issue affects the veracity of God’s Word, and is indeed, a salvation issue, we have been careful; drawing a strong, exegetical, and historical picture from the Bible. Many are worried that real ET visitations might falsify the Bible if we are wrong. While such motives might be sincere, we should not be concerned that the Bible should be falsified as to its truth claims—particularly if we are claiming it is the very Word of God.
Unlike Buddhism, Islam, etc., extraterrestrial belief has a veneer of scientific credibility. Arguably, the world’s most famous scientist, physicist Stephen Hawking, has even stated that he believes aliens probably exist. And the world’s most famous atheistic evolutionist, Richard Dawkins, as anti-theistic as he is, has no problem with aliens’ theoretically seeding life on earth, provided that somewhere down the chain of creators, there’s a life form that arose via evolution. Antichristian scientist, and co-discoverer of the DNA molecule, Sir Francis Crick, similarly proposed that life came via panspermia (life seeded by aliens) as a possible explanation for the mind-boggling complexity of the coded information on DNA. As atheists, mainly due to their evolutionist beliefs, they claim there is no evidence for God. However, they have no problem resorting to ‘unseen’ aliens as our creators. Design, apparently is not the problem. It’s God being the designer that they have a problem with.
When people see an Unidentified Flying Object in the skies or come into contact with beings who claim to be from ‘a galaxy far, far away’, it has added credibility in the minds of the experiencers because so many scientists believe in alien life.
When people see an Unidentified Flying Object in the skies or come into contact with beings who claim to be from ‘a galaxy far, far away’, it has added credibility in the minds of the experiencers because so many scientists believe in alien life. In addition, science fiction, which is massively influential, creates futuristic worlds where highly technologically advanced aliens can overcome the laws of physics to visit the earth from star systems billions of light years away perhaps. As such, the majority of people, including most Christians tend to gravitate towards the idea that they have just seen or experienced something otherworldly.
Seemingly more credibility was added when NASA launched an ‘Astrobiology’ program, dedicated to studying “the origin, evolution, distribution and destiny of life—wherever it might exist”, it gives added traction to the idea that there actually is life out there. Why would SETI (The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute) be scanning the skies, using many millions of radio frequencies every second, for broadcasts from intelligent beings if they didn’t believe they actually exist? New Scientist (NS) recently reported that Seth Shostak (Director of SETI) was confident that within 24 years we would detect an alien civilization. He said,
“There are maybe 1021 Earth-like planets out there … Believing there aren’t ETs is believing in miracles.”(1)
NS said “He bet the audience that we’d find ET within our lifetime or else he’d buy us a cup of Starbucks.”
As we wrote in “Prepare Ye the Way—the aliens are coming”, the ET religion is not only a subset of the origins issue, it provides a complete replacement theology for Christianity. The Raelians are only one example of a cult that has evolutionism and UFOlogy at its core. They believe that the Elohim were our extraterrestrial creators, but don’t know where they came from. Were they likewise created, or did
they evolve from mindless matter? And if they were created, who created their creators, and their creators’ creators? Although they think they have solved the origin of life issue—even advocating intelligent design—each creator race only moves the question back one step, to a different planet and no ultimate answer.
Part of ‘salvation’ in the ET religion often involves evolving to the level of our ET benefactors. Its origins are found in the satanic ‘you will be like God’ deception that emanates from the Garden of Eden. If the ET deception has the same source, we shouldn’t be surprised at the parallels.
Doctrine of UFOlogical religion
There is also a soteriological (doctrine of salvation) aspect to UFO religion. Our ‘space brothers’ are said to be older and more advanced both ethically and technologically. This is a bizarre claim given the brutal and sordid nature of some alleged abduction encounters. Often, ‘New Age’ religion is strongly intertwined with UFO beliefs. The ETs are going to save us from global warming, etc, and show us how to live in harmony with our planet. Earth as an organism figures in as well, a theme popularized by the film Avatar.
Part of ‘salvation’ in the ET religion often involves evolving to the level of our ET benefactors. Its origins are found in the satanic ‘you will be like God’ deception that emanates from the Garden of Eden. If the ET deception has the same source, we shouldn’t be surprised at the parallels.
Sometimes ETs also act as judges. Raelianism claims that there is a panel of judges who will get to decide who gets to be cloned again to eternal life, and who doesn’t. This is based on works, like all other false religions such as Islam, Mormonism, etc. But in the absence of an omniscient God, who decides what’s good enough? And what authority do mere men have to decide whether someone is good enough—are they themselves ‘good enough’ and by whose standard? This problem is common with the redemption aspect of most false religions.
There is also an eschatological aspect. In some beliefs, the ETs will come and take away all the people who refuse to let ‘Mother Earth’ evolve, either destroying them or taking them to someplace else. For instance, New Age, ET channeller, Barbara Marciniak writes in her book Bringers of the Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians:
“The people who leave the planet during the time of Earth changes do not fit in here any longer, and they are stopping the harmony of Earth. When the time comes that perhaps 20 million people leave the planet at one time there will be a tremendous shift in consciousness for those who are remaining.”(2)
This is a not-so-subtle take on the Christian pre-millennial view, in which Christians are raptured, that is, taken away by Christ, before the time known as the Great Tribulation. There are also views that ET believers will be taken away by spaceships to a planet called Heaven, which in some iterations even features a golden city much like the New Jerusalem. Channeller Thelma Terrell, who also goes by the ‘spiritual’ name ‘Tuella’, writes:
“Our rescue ships will be able to come in close enough in the twinkling of an eye to set the lifting beams in operation in a moment. And over the globe where events warrant it, this will be the method of evacuation. Mankind will be lifted … by the beams from our smaller ships. …
“ … Earth changes will be the primary factor in mass evacuation of the planet. There is method and great organization in a detailed plan already near completion for the purpose of removing souls from this planet, in the event of catastrophic events making a rescue necessary … . The Great Evacuation will come upon the world very suddenly. The flash of emergency events will be as a lightning that flashes in the sky. So suddenly and quick in its happening that it is over almost before you are aware of its presence …”
This is strikingly similar to 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. However, we should not be surprised. The enemy has always been a counterfeiter and we are warned that he masquerades as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). In others, the aliens will herald in the apocalypse. Some types of ET belief have alien/human hybrids as an integral part of end-times scenarios.
Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam’s link to UFOs In Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection (p. 298) we revealed that the founder of the ‘million man march’ and current leader of the Nation of Islam (NOL) was a former UFO contactee. As a young man, Louis Farrakhan, claims he was taken aboard a UFO where he met Master Elijah Muhammed (the former leader, then deceased). This was kept under wraps for years, probably due to credibility problems that such claims would have, but apparently not any more. Farrakhan and his followers apparently believe that Armageddon is coming and that the spaceships will return again someday. On reporting about a recent convention in Chicago where over 10,000 followers gathered, Fox News reported that belief in UFOs is:
“ … one of the group’s more misunderstood–and ridiculed–beliefs, something organizers took into account when planning the convention …. ‘There’s enough evidence that has been put before the world and public,’ Ishmael Muhammad, the religion’s national assistant minister, told The Associated Press. ‘There have been enough accounts and sightings and enough movies (documentaries) made, I don’t think you would find too many people that would call it crazy.’”(3)
Indeed, by embracing popular belief and incorporating it into their religion, NOL might increasingly be more attractive to many trying to fit UFOs and aliens into their religious worldview.
Sacraments and ‘holy places’
Some people get so involved in the ET phenomenon that they actually start ‘channeling’ supposed ‘space brothers’. Sometimes they claim that the aliens actually communicate through them. But how can a physical being be channeled? Some alien beings claim to have evolved beyond matter, to a spiritual existence. It seeks to provide an atheistic, evolutionary mechanism to justify that the aliens are, in fact, really spiritual beings, who can replace the ultimate spiritual being of man’s construction—God!
‘True believers’ point to crop circles as a major physical evidence of alien visitations. They claim that the designs are too complex to be man-made. Groups like Circlemakers amply disprove the claim that crop circles have to be created by beings with advanced technology (in fact, traditionally crop circles are easily made with planks and ropes). But this does not mean that even indisputably man-made circles aren’t relevant to the UFO phenomenon. People involved in the construction of crop circles often report strange phenomena surrounding these sites:
“Our crop formations are intended to function as temporary sacred sites in this landscape. While constructing crop formations in the fields we have experienced a series of aerial anomalies including: small balls of light, columns of light, and blinding flashes. All apparently targeting us and our crop formations. We are unsurprised at the numerous visitors who have reported a diverse assortment of anomalies associated with our artworks. These have included physiological effects, such as headache and nausea. Healing effects such as one report of a cure for acute osteoporosis. Physical effects such as camera and other electronic equipment failure. We are certain that our artworks are subject of paranormal forces and act to catalyze other paranormal events.”(4) (emphasis added)
Demonologists expect that when people dabble with the occult, even as a joke or a prank, evil spirits will usually jump at the opportunity to deceive and gain control over people. But Circlemakers may not be entirely innocent in this regard, as our book Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection documents:
“A little-known fact about Circlemakers is that before they entered the lucrative commercial market, they called themselves Team Satan. This is a very bold name and might be suggestive of their intent. … Indeed satanic worship continues to be quite prolific in the world today, and many are drawn into it by its allure and mysticism. Have crop circles become modern shrines of occult worship? Most certainly, Team Satan is not ashamed to publicly draw attention to the ‘supernatural side’ of its work and, perhaps deliberately, draw more folk into the dark world of the occult using the curiosity factor.” (p. 218)
What does the Bible say?
The Bible doesn’t specifically mention aliens or UFOs, and we shouldn’t expect it to. The Bible was written for all believers in all cultures, but it was written to specific people in specific cultures, so we should expect the text to conform to those cultures somewhat (though God’s word in every case also transcends that culture). Talk about little green men would be incomprehensible and nonsensical to the first-century Jew; it would be completely outside his worldview. But, although the Bible does not speak specifically about aliens, it is not silent about this issue.
God’s creation was anthropocentric, in that the goal of creation was to produce mankind in His image; to have eternal fellowship with Him and produce a bride for Christ. This goal was so important that even mankind’s sin didn’t cause Him to abandon us; instead the Second Person of the Trinity sacrificed Himself for us so that we could be brought back into a right relationship with Him.
First, the Bible is clear that God created. In fact, one of His core attributes is that He is the uncreated Creator. It is the vital difference between Him and the lifeless idols created by human hands (Isaiah 40–44). And His creation was anthropocentric, in that the goal of creation was to produce mankind in His image; to have eternal fellowship with Him and produce a bride for Christ. This goal was so important that even mankind’s sin didn’t cause Him to abandon us; instead the Second Person of the Trinity sacrificed Himself for us so that we could be brought back into a right relationship with Him.
Second, the Bible states that there are spiritual beings called angels, 1/3 of which rebelled against God. The leader of this rebellion is called Lucifer (literally meaning ‘being of light’) or Satan (‘accuser’). His primary trait is that he is a deceiver, and we can see this in that his first recorded act in Scripture is that he deceived Eve so that she sinned and persuaded Adam to rebel as well. His mission is to spite God, his creator, by taking down as many human beings as He can. Satan hates humans because we are made in the image of the Creator, who he hates, and because God loves us.
These angels can appear in a variety of forms; the ones who are obedient to God always appear as males, but not always like human males (see the angelic descriptions in Ezekiel and Revelation, for example). Many believe that at one point in time fallen angels cohabited with human women, producing the Nephilim. But these angels are confined in a special prison awaiting judgment, so this cannot be repeated (2 Peter 2:4–5).
Signs and wonders
The Bible indicates that the last days will be characterized by an intensifying of supernatural ‘signs and wonders’ designed to deceive the world (Matthew 12; Mark 13). (Lest anyone think that we’re advocating one eschatological view or another, the Bible seems to refer to the time where the Church exists on earth as the ‘last days’, which has lasted for nearly 2,000 years and counting, so we’re using ‘last days’ in the biblical sense, not the sense of any particular eschatological view.) Revelation is even clearer, saying that the false prophet will do signs and wonders to draw people to the beast, also known as the antichrist (Revelation 19).
The devil is a counterfeiter, so we should not be surprised that just as Jesus’ signs and wonders were designed to point people to Him and the truth of His teaching, the false signs and wonders also serve to deceive people into believing lies. When Paul refers to this in 1 Timothy 4, the context makes it clear that he is talking about a certain heresy making the rounds in the Asian churches, which seems to be a form of proto-Gnosticism. But ‘doctrines taught by demons’ also seems to apply especially well to the teachings, actually a whole alternate theology, taught by the alleged aliens.
A heads up
It is a mistake for Christians to be uninformed or to ignore the alien phenomenon. Belief in aliens is so prevalent that the church will be seen as irrelevant in this area if Christians can’t address the ‘reality’ for the culture on this topic. Its ‘scientific’ bent has an allure not readily found in other false religions. We regularly dialogue with people who morph Jesus into an advanced extraterrestrial; who’s advanced technological prowess gave him the ability to perform seeming miracles and even
raise the dead. Such ideas are challenging traditional Christian belief. In most churches he visits, one of the authors [GB] regularly meets individuals who have seen something in the sky that they can’t explain, or even had an encounter with a being that claimed to be from another planet. Often they have never spoken to their pastors or others in the church about it for fear of ridicule. As such things escalate due to the ongoing conditioning of the culture we should heed the warning of Jesus in Matthew 24:24-25:
“For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.”
Gary Bates and Lita Cosner, https://creation.com/ufology-scientific-religion
JGJ) To answer your second question, I think this is what all the interest in Ancient Aliens is all about. Even Jacques Vallee recognized what could happen in the future.
“I think the stage is set for the appearance of new faiths, centred on the UFO belief. To a greater degree than all phenomena modern science is confronting, the UFO can inspire awe, the sense of the smallness of man, and an idea of the possibility of contact with the cosmic. The religions we have briefly surveyed began with the miraculous experiences of one person, but to-day there are thousands for whom the belief in otherworldly contact is based on intimate conviction, drawn from what they regard as personal contact with UFOs and their occupants.” Jacques Vallee, https://www.azquotes.com/author/33226-Jacques_Vallee2
2 1) Exoplanet findings spark philosophical debate, 10 March, 2011. www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/02/practical-and-religious-implic.html
2) Marciniak, B. Bringers of the Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians (Rochester, VT: Bear and Co, 1992), cited in Bates, G. Alien Intrusion, 2nd ed (Atlanta: Creation Book Publishers, 2010), p. 319.
3) Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam to Argue UFOs Are Real, www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/25/nation-islam-convention-include-talk-ufos/?test=latestnews, 10 March, 2011.
4) ‘Circlemakers’, www.circlemakers.org/press.html, 10 June 2003. Cited in Alien Intrusion, p. 216.